Drummer for local power-psych monsters the Flying Eyes talks European tour and new
As stepped in late 1960s sounds as
The Flying Eyes might be, this is not peaceful, sunshine music. Though psychedelic to the bone, their sound is as aggressive as it is foreboding. Where the band is most popular is in Germany, a country whose national psyche has endured two world wars, a fascist dictator, and a divisive partitioning by NATO and Soviet interests over the past century. When they last played Baltimore at the Golden West, the stage was lit in stark red light, and half of the band was shirtless. They opened with a punishing cover of the Stooges’ legendarily hedonistic anthem “I Wanna Be Your Dog,” and the whole scene was much more akin to Mia Farrow’s dream sequence in Rosemary’s Baby than say, Hair.
When speaking to Flying Eyes drummer and occasional sound manipulator Elias Schutzman, one is more likely to hear words like “sludge” and “doom” as opposed to “peace” or “love.” That’s not to say he comes across in any way as the troublemaking sort; he’s knowledgeable, confident and relaxed. When you’re around him, there’s always a cadre of associates about he’s sure to make pleasant face time with. Sonic Charm sat down with him over Natty Bohs at a recent Hampden trad-punk show recently to talk Europe, Baltimore, psychedelia and sound.
How would you describe the Flying Eyes Style?
I could do the whole generic thing and describe it as heavy, psychedelic blues rock, but as a friend once told me a while ago, we sound kind of like a freight train running off the rails.
I can definitely hear that in your sound. It's psychedelic but it's very dark and heavy.
When I usually tell people we play psychedelic rock, I'm very quick to point out that we're not the Grateful Dead, not all noodly-doodly psychedelic because I feel like a lot of people might associate it with that, who don't really know the connotations of that word.
My line on your type of psychedelia is that the best psychedelic music is made when people are on bad acid trips.
Yeah, I could agree with that some what. I also think . . . I don't think that necessarily depends . . . it's a term relevant only to drugs, it's an overwhelming kind of sensory experience, it overwhelms you on all levels and draws you in. Music that you feel in many different ways.
So you just got back from a tour of Europe. How did that go?
It was really great. It was the first time we really made money. It was really cool, not that being in the music business is about money because then I would be in the wrong business. It was really great that we played shows almost every day of the week and for the most part people were coming out to see us. There were a few smaller shows that you always have to expect but even at those shows there was like 30 people, maybe the smallest show was like 20 people, and I'm still pretty satisfied with that. So most shows we were getting between 50 and 70 people to come see us, and then a few bigger ones.
How does the scene over there differ from over here?
Well it's a totally different vibe. I think like, when we tour here, I don't meet a lot of people who are fans who know us and came to the show to experience our music, it's more like people went out and happened to see us or just a happening kind of scene that they happen to be a part of, but there I felt like although there's more of a kind of scene for the music we make over here, I really felt like people [in Europe] were genuenly our fans and they really wanted to come out and see us and be appreciative of what we were doing. It was a really nice feeling.
Any European bands that you would recommend?
Oh yeah sure! We played with a great band in Holland, it was our one show in the Netherlands, and we were opening for them. And they were actually pretty well known in the Netherlands, they've sold out a lot of shows on their tour, so this was a 500 person sold out show, and that band's called De Wolf, and they're like between 16 and 18 years old, but they're like a 70's psych rock/prog band. They have this really vintage sound, but at the same time it's fresh sounding, there's a lot of energy. They're just really talented. And we've got friends, this German band Burn Pilot, they've got some big stoner metal influences, anywhere from hardcore punk, to grunge to stoner metal, a little bit of everyhing but it's still a very cohesive sound. Those guys are really cool. We got to play this really cool festival in Berlin called the Burning Earth festival, and we were sharing the bill with Orange Goblin, a well known doomy stoner metal band, and this really cool band that's also on our label called the Samsara Blues Experience.
Music in Baltimore is typically in a hardcore, post-punk or electronic vein, not to mention Baltimore Club and Hip-Hop. As a psychedelic band, how do you feel you fit in with that? Do you feel you fit in with that?
You know, not really. I feel like there's definitely fans of psychedelic music in Baltimore and they come out of the rock and roll, garage rock type scene. It's not specifically psychedelic but I think those people cross over. We've had to really just build our own kind of fan base that doesn't really exist within a scene, but its friends and their friends, spreading the word to their friends. I never thought we were a scene-oriented band. We're more of a band that people just like because they like what we're doing, people coming from all over. And I think that's cool, and I think that in the long run those people will be more loyal fans than if we were just part of a scene that just comes and goes.
Tell us about your new album. Is this your first full length?
Yeah, I consider it the first full length. We released another album in Europe, but that was just a combination of out first two EPs. So in a way, Done So Wrong, our new album, I consider that our first full length statement. It was an interesting process, we recorded the rhythm tracks while we were in Germany last summer, and then we brought it back and did a lot of overdubs and vocals to finish it up and then we mixed it partially in here and partially in Germany. And the artwork, which I'm really happy with, was done by a really talented German artist named Kiryk Drewinski, who's in a really cool German psych/garage rock band called the Magnificent Brotherhood from Berlin.
In addition to playing drums in the Flying Eyes, you also play with Mother Sun Flower, with Tim Shaw and Jon Lipscomb from Whoarfrost. You do some vocal effects manipulation in that band. Do you do anything like that in the Flying Eyes?
I actually started doing that in the Flying Eyes. I guess it's this kind of masturbatory need for me to kind of fuck around with some effects, but I bought a delay pedal and
I ended putting our bassist's vocals through it. I just thought it would be fun. I Velcro it to my bass drum. And it also has a stereo output, so the sound hops back and forth between speakers. If you turn the feedback way up, then you can capture the feedback of the band and just make weird tripped out delay sounds with it. I think it fills out certain areas where there wouldn't be as much noise.
In what ways is Mother Sun Flower different from working with the Flying Eyes?
Oh it's completely different, which I really like. [Mother Sun Flower] is a jam band and we've been jamming together for years, and one day we were just like "Hey how about we write some songs?" It's really spur of the moment and spontaneous, unlike the Flying Eyes, where we spend a long time writing songs and shaping them and arranging them, which I love doing too. But with Mother Sun Flower, partially because we just don't have time, we just sort of throw things out there and most of our songs have just been written in one practice, and when we play them live we just sort of jam out. So that's really fun, to just create music without any hang-ups and not thinking too hard and just doing it.
The Flying Eyes play the Granfalloon on May 27, where they will be releasing Done So Wrong in the United States.